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18 Fun Facts About Mallrats

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Mallrats, which was released 20 years ago today, is the story of T.S. and Brodie, two heartbroken young men who spend an eventful day at the mall trying to win back their girlfriends. The film, which was writer-director Kevin Smith’s follow-up to the indie hit Clerks, was a critical and commercial failure back in 1995. But over time, Smith devotees and casual fans alike began to see the film from a new perspective—as if they were looking at a Magic Eye display—and reconsider its individual charms, eventually turning the film into a bona fide cult classic (and one that's about to get a sequel). Here are some facts about the movie to read at the cookie stand, which is definitely not part of the food court.

1. THE STUDIO SOLD IT AS A "SMART PORKY’S."

Universal was so confident in the film’s prospects that they referred to it as a more intelligent version of the classic 1981 high school movie and had plans for a Mallrats sequel before the original film was even released. They canceled those plans after Mallrats earned just over $2.1 million in theaters.

2. UNIVERSAL WANTED ETHAN HAWKE TO STAR.

In a 1994 interview with Entertainment Weekly, Smith explained that "The studio has given us a list of stars they think should be in the movie." At the top of that list was Ethan Hawke, who Smith called "the most overworked actor in America. I’d like to give him a rest.”

3. JENNY MCCARTHY AND JENNIFER LOVE HEWITT AUDITIONED.

Jenny McCarthy claimed that Smith "didn't even wait until I was out of the office to start laughing" about her audition. Love Hewitt tried as well, but didn’t make the cut. William Atherton was offered the role of Brandi’s father, Mr. Svenning; he opted to act in Bio-Dome instead.

4. PARKER POSEY INITIALLY HAD THE ROLE OF RENE.

Joey Lauren Adams had believed for one year that she was going to get the role of Rene, Brodie's girlfriend, until her agent informed her that her best friend, Parker Posey, had gotten the part. Awkwardly, Posey was standing right next to Adams when she got the news: "Tears streaming down my face, I hugged and congratulated her, as visions of arsenic danced in my head," said Adams. Eventually, Posey had to drop out due to a scheduling conflict, and Shannen Doherty got the part instead. Adams read for—and won—the part of Gwen.

5. BEN AFFLECK WANTED TO STAR IN THE MOVIE.

He settled for playing Shannon, despite not wanting to play another bad guy like he had in Dazed and Confused. "Part of me was like, 'God, am I going to be relegated to throwing people into their lockers for the rest of my career?,'" Affleck told Backstage.

6. JASON LEE WAS BETTER KNOWN AS A SKATEBOARDER, NOT AN ACTOR.

Jason Lee had been casually dabbling in acting while skateboarding, appearing in commercials and in small films before winning the part of Brodie. He decided to quit the sport after Mallrats.

7. SETH GREEN WAS USED BY THE STUDIO AS INSURANCE IN CASE JASON MEWES COULDN’T CUT IT.

Even though Jason Mewes had played Jay in Clerks, Gramercy Pictures (a Universal subsidiary) forced him to audition against Seth Green, then kept Green available just in case they found it necessary to replace Mewes during filming. The studio also wouldn't pay for Mewes' air travel, his hotel room, or for rehearsals. After studio heads witnessed his first day of work, they left satisfied with his performance.

8. IT WAS SHOT IN A MINNESOTA MALL.

Smith wanted to shoot the film in his home state of New Jersey, but Gramercy said no. Eden Prairie Center Mall in Eden Prairie, Minnesota ended up hosting the cast and crew. The state's big tax break and the fact that the mall was only operating at half capacity made it the right financial and practical choice.

9. A NEARLY 30-MINUTE OPENING SCENE AT A GOVERNOR’S BALL WAS CUT.

In the original version of the film, T.S. accidentally shot the Governor of New Jersey at a function hosted by Mr. Svenning, which helped explain Brandi’s father’s hatred of T.S. throughout the film. Preview audiences weren’t fans of the scene, so it was taken out of the theatrical cut. The scene became available for public consumption for the first time when it was added as an extra on the 10th anniversary DVD.

10. SMITH GAVE A SHOUT-OUT TO HIS HIGH SCHOOL.

Brodie wore a Henry Hudson Regional High School shirt in the beginning of the movie. Smith and Jeff Anderson (Randal from the Clerks films) both graduated from Henry Hudson in 1988.

11. THERE ARE CONFLICTING STORIES ON SMITH’S DIRECTING TECHNIQUES.

Throughout rehearsals, Smith gave line readings to the actors, speaking their lines so that they could simply repeat them with his tone and inflection, as well as physically demonstrating how an actor should move around at times. Joey Lauren Adams found it shocking. Conversely, Smith apparently relaxed when it came time to film. Michael Rooker (Mr. Svenning) remembered Smith playing on his Game Boy instead of giving his movie his full attention.

12. WILLAM CALLING SHANNEN DOHERTY "BRENDA" WASN’T IN THE SCRIPT.

Ethan Suplee (Willam) and Doherty (Rene) completed a take of the scene before Smith walked over to Suplee and whispered to him to call her Brenda (as in Brenda Walsh, Doherty’s character from Beverly Hills, 90210). Suplee said he believed at the time she didn’t know it was coming, then later heard she might have.

13. DOHERTY’S FANS ALMOST CAUSED A RIOT.

Doherty let her bodyguard take the night off and went on a shopping excursion to a different Minnesota mall with Joey Lauren Adams and the movie’s costume designer. A group of fans flocked to Urban Outfitters, forcing an employee to lock the store’s front doors. Some fans kept chasing Doherty and her two companions in the parking lot before they managed to escape in their car.

14. WALTER FLANAGAN REALLY DID HAVE A DOG.

Walter Flanagan played Fan Boy. He purchased a tiny puppy during filming, named it Brodie, and let it run around the closed mall and its empty parking lot, where she ran around so fast that she “looked like a little hockey puck.” That is where Jay’s comment that someone was running “faster than Walt Flanagan’s dog” came from. "It was such an inside joke, I guess Kevin just decided to keep it," Flanagan said.

15. A SCENE MEANT FOR MALLRATS WAS DEEMED "TOO RACY" BY THE STUDIO.

“The Jaws scene,” where the characters compare scars, was originally in the Mallrats script. Smith shot it for Chasing Amy instead.

16. ETHAN SUPLEE DIDN’T SEE THE SAILBOAT.

Suplee never saw a sailboat, or a schooner, in the Magic Eye picture he spent the bulk of the movie staring at. Apparently, there never was one in the picture to begin with.

17. KEVIN SMITH APOLOGIZED FOR THE FILM.

He jokingly apologized for making Mallrats at the Independent Spirit Awards. On his office’s answering machine after the movie's poor showing in theaters, Lee recalled that Smith greeted callers by saying, “Hey, this is Kevin. We can't get to the phone right now. We're too busy licking our wounds.”

18. A SEQUEL IS GOING TO BE FILMED NEXT YEAR.

Mallbrats will be shot at the Exton Square Mall in Exton, Pennsylvania. All of the original cast is slated to return.

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When the teen film Can’t Hardly Wait—which was named after the Replacements song of the same name—arrived in theaters on June 12, 1998, it grossed $25,605,015 on a $10 million budget. In the 20 years since, the movie has found an even larger audience through DVD and cable. The premise follows Preston Meyers (Empire Records’s Ethan Embry) trying to connect with his dream girl, Amanda Beckett (Jennifer Love Hewitt), all the while seeking advice from his best friend, Denise Fleming (a pre-Six Feet Under Lauren Ambrose).

Originally called The Party, most of the movie takes place during a rambunctious graduation party, featuring a before-they-were-famous cast, and Jenna Elfman as a stripper dressed as an angel. The movie culminates with Preston and Amanda sealing their romance and living happily ever after. Written and directed by Harry Elfont and Deborah Kaplan, the two would later team up for Josie and the Pussycats. Here are 10 fun-filled facts about the ’90s teen comedy.

1. THE PLOT WAS BASED ON LOGISTICS.

Can't Hardly Wait was Harry Elfont and Deborah Kaplan’s directorial debut, so they liked the idea of having a self-contained and low-budget story to direct. “It was all practical,” Elfont told TIME. “The idea of doing a movie set at a party came first, because it seemed like it would be really cheap to shoot a movie in one location. Then we thought, what hasn’t been done? Nobody’s really done a high-school movie in a while. So we kind of fell into it that way. It was kind of an accident.”

2. SEVERAL SCENES IN THE FILM WERE CHANGED TO AVOID AN R RATING.

A year before the raunchy American Pie was released and jumpstarted R-rated teen films, Can’t Hardly Wait got watered down to get a PG-13 rating. Sony had issues with the underage drinking, and the fact there was no parental supervision at the party. “Well, who would have a high school party and have your parents there?!” Hewitt asked the Los Angeles Times. Seth Green, who played the virginal Kenny Fisher in the movie, gave a rundown of deleted or altered scenes, to Vulture.

“When [Jennifer] Love [Hewitt] first walks into the party, there’s a kid behind her holding a balloon and covering his mouth,” he said. “That used to be a beer bong, but the most expensive CG in the movie was [used] to make it [look] like that kid was smiling and holding a balloon. And then, there’s a scene where Charlie [Korsmo] and Peter [Facinelli] are at the piano. They toast, and then they cut to a wide shot where neither of them are drinking and then cut back to a close-up of them putting their glasses down because you can’t show the kids drinking.”

3. ETHAN EMBRY FORCED HIS WAY INTO PLAYING THE LEAD.

“It had been a while that I had the opportunity to play the ‘guy that gets the girl,’” Embry told VH1. “I had done those roles when I was a lot younger and this was the first time that someone would see me as a lead.” After Embry auditioned for the movie, he got offered the William Lichter part, which eventually went to Charlie Korsmo. But Embry turned the supporting part down. “I wanted to play the guy who gets the girl. That was sort of the driving thing.”

4. MELISSA JOAN HART AND JENNIFER LOVE HEWITT GOT “HIGH” ON B12 VITAMINS.

Hart purposefully chose the small role of the manic Yearbook Girl, as she was working full-time on Sabrina the Teenage Witch and couldn’t fit in a bigger part. While filming a night scene with Hewitt, Hart took B12 vitamins to stay energized, and offered them to a skeptical Hewitt, who thought the vitamins were drugs. “I finally convinced her it’s a vitamin, you can do it,” Hart told TV Guide. “So we took B12 vitamins, and then there was an owl in the tree. [Hewitt] was like, ‘See I’m high now, because there’s not really an owl in the tree.’ We were having these silly night giggles and just attributing it to B12 vitamins.”

5. JASON SEGEL HAD A CAMEO.

The actor was a year away from starring on Freaks and Geeks and seven from How I Met Your Mother when he signed on to play Watermelon Guy. Kaplan and Elfont recognized his talent immediately. “We knew how funny Jason was but there wasn’t a bigger part for him, so we were, like, let’s cast him as this watermelon guy,” Elfont told TIME.

Many other actors either got their start in the movie or became more famous as a result, including Lauren Ambrose and Freddy Rodriguez (both from Six Feet Under), Clea DuVall, Selma Blair, and Sean Patrick Thomas. “Everyone in that age range came in to read because there were no other jobs,” Kaplan told TIME. “That whole crop of people who turned out to be so talented and do so well for themselves afterward were in our movie literally, I think, because there was nothing else for them to do.”

6. EMBRY DOESN’T REMEMBER MUCH ABOUT THE SHOOT.

Embry admitted to VH1 to being “the world’s biggest stoner” while making the film. “Nothing sticks out because I was so stoned the entire time,” he said. He also confessed, “I haven’t seen the movie all the way through ... I never read the script.”

One thing he did remember, though, was the only scene he filmed with Hewitt, at the end of the movie. Before their characters kissed at the train station, Hewitt—knowing he smoked—had a basket of breath mints sent to Embry’s trailer. “And there was a basket of breath mints, you know? Like real pretty,” he said. “Like almost you give somebody flowers or a fruit basket but she gave me 50 breath mints. And it’s all different types. It was all very sweet. And that always makes me laugh thinking of that. Aww, Jennifer wanted me to smell good.” Embry took advantage of the gift and popped some breath mints into his mouth before filming. “They were rather nice cottonmouth alleviators,” he said during a Reddit AMA.

7. EMBRY DOESN’T KNOW—OR CARE—WHAT HIS CHARACTER'S LETTER SAID.

Early on at the party, Amanda finds and reads Preston’s letter and spends the rest of the film trying to find him. It must’ve been a powerful letter, because it finally brings them together at the end. “It was a prop! It was an envelope,” he told VH1. “I think I remember the directors asking me if I knew what was in there. It was a prop. It doesn’t matter. Like I know what’s in there? It’s called acting.”

8. THE CAST WOULD LOVE TO DO A SEQUEL.

In 2015, some of the cast reunited at the Hollywood Forever Cemetery for a screening of the film. Hewitt tweeted: “Can’t Hardly Wait reunion movie anyone? Let’s get them to make it!” In a 2013 interview with VH1, Embry was tepid about a sequel. “Maybe if they paid me more than last time,” he said about a second one. “[He and Amanda] would have to not be together anymore. Amanda and him had a horrible breakup and there were kids involved. He drinks himself silly over a typewriter. I’d make that sequel.” But in a 2015 interview with The Huffington Post, Embry changed his tune. “Of course I would be thrilled to work with any of the players involved again,” he said. “If all the stars aligned, I would be happy to entertain that possibility.”

Peter Facinelli, who played Amanda’s ex-boyfriend Mike Dexter, told IFC his thoughts on a sequel. “You know how the whole movie takes place at the high school party? We could have the whole movie take place at the reunion. I thought it’d be a fun movie.”

9. PETER FACINELLI THINKS MIKE DEXTER TURNED INTO A LOSER.

If a sequel did occur, Facinelli has an idea about what happened to Mike. “Now he’s basically the loser,” he told IFC. “The nerd was the loser in the first movie. Now he’s like the loser and then he kind of climbs back and gets back on his horse. And the nerdy kid is now the Bill Gates who is kind of like the Mike Dexter, bossing everyone around. I think [Dexter’s] just literally a loser. He’s filled with self-doubt and he would basically rise to self-confidence again and come back on top.”

10. EMBRY THINKS PRESTON AND AMANDA ENDED UP WITH WEIRD JOBS.

VH1 asked Embry where he thinks the characters would be today, and he said: “She’s j*rking off dudes in Vancouver, and he’s making horror movies in upstate New York.”

Elfont took a more serious approach to the question, for TIME. “[The on-screen text at the end of the movie] says they’re still together,” Elfont said. “Who am I to argue?”

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11 Great Moments of Foreshadowing in Arrested Development
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Since first airing on Fox in 2003, Arrested Development has established itself as a paragon of depth in television comedy. Fans of the show have spent years digging out jokes buried in the background, beneath the narration, within the soundtrack, and everywhere in between.

To celebrate the show's return to Netflix for an all-new fifth season, here's a look at several great examples of foreshadowing hidden within the Bluth family's exploits.

1. HOLD ON, SURELY FÜNKE!

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Season 1, Episode 14: Two episodes before we are first introduced to Maeby’s sickly alter ego, “Surely,” posters wishing her a speedy recovery are visible on the walls of the high school. Surely, despite suffering from “BS,” reoccurs throughout the rest of the show’s original run.

2. BUSTER IS "ALL-RIGHT"

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This one is well documented around the internet, but the sheer amount that the show foreshadows Buster’s life-changing encounter with a certain yellow-bow-tie-wearing seal is impressive.

Season 1, Episode 20: Buster says, "This party is going to be off the hook!"

Season 2, Episode 1: A news broadcast can be heard in the background mentioning a seal attack. John Beard says, “Meet one surprised bather, coming up.” The camera immediately shows Buster.

Season 2, Episode 3: Buster, upon seeing his lost hand-shaped chair, says, “Wow, I never thought I’d miss a hand so much.”

Season 2, Episode 6: There is a portion bitten out of the banana stand sign as it is pulled out of the bay; the bite pattern is consistent with a seal. Buster wins a toy seal from the claw machine. When he returns home, the narrator mentions that, “Buster had gotten hooked playing”.

Season 2, Episode 11: A seal can be seen in the background during Buster and Lucille’s beach photo shoot. Later, George Sr. says, “What if I never get a chance to reach out and touch that hand of his again?”

As Buster sits on a bench near the beach, his position crops the words on the back of the bench to say, “ARM OFF.”

Season 2, Episode 12: When George Sr. visits the car dealership, an inflatable man in the background is missing the arm that Buster will soon lose. Also, Gob, while releasing the infamous seal into the wild, says, “You’re not going to be hand-fed anymore!"

Buster deals with the loss of his hand for the rest of the show, even after being given a much larger one. It must be difficult becoming a monster.

3. THE IRAQ CONNECTION

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Even in its first season, Arrested Development chose to reward devout fans with callbacks and hints at overarching plot lines. Some prime examples are the subtle nods to the true nature of George Sr.’s trips overseas: illegally building homes in Iraq.

Season 1, Episode 5: George Sr. admits that he has “committed some light treason.”

Season 1, Episode 14: Michael notices that pictures of one of Saddam Hussein’s mansions look strikingly similar to their model home.

Season 1, Episode 16: George Sr.’s precious “cooler of evidence” is labeled “H. MADDAZ,” which is “SADDAM H.” spelled in mirror-reverse.

Season 1, Episode 22: Kitty mentions that the family has been building houses overseas and hiding it from the U.S. government. Michael, thinking she’s merely referring to tax evasion, dismisses the statement. Later in the episode, the truth comes to light after Michael sees a news report laying it all out for him.

The family building homes and frequently doing business in Iraq carries as a reoccurring theme for the rest of the show’s original three seasons.

4. CALLING DR. BLUMEN

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Season 2, Episode 1: You'll have to be paying close attention to notice this one: In the season two opener, Michael—on his way to Phoenix—makes a call to the family pretending to be a “Dr. Blumen.” Later in the episode, the above scenario happens for the first time.

5. GOB HAS MADE A HUGE TINY MISTAKE

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Season 3, Episode 1: Gob receives a letter from an organization attempting to reunite him with his son. After some confusion (including the narrator disagreeing with Gob’s statement that he doesn’t have a son), Gob finally realizes that he is the father of none other than Maeby’s longtime crush, Steve Holt(!). This comes as a big surprise to Gob, but the show has been hinting at this twist since season one.

In the 19th episode of season one, Gob accidentally mutters that he might be a father, a fact that he references again in the fifth episode of season two. The foreshadowing really kicks up later on in season two during George Michael’s election campaign against Steve; Gob reveals that he got a girl pregnant during high school and notes that Steve looks like a girl he dated. Michael also tells Gob that Steve is “basically a young you.” During the post-episode teaser, an investigator shows Steve a photo of his father (Gob), but the fact is dropped until the season three premiere in which Gob’s “huge tiny mistake” is finally revealed.

6. A THOROUGHLY POLITE DUSTUP

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Season 3, Episode 4: During season three, Buster puts himself into what doctors call a “light-to-no coma” in order to avoid testifying against his family. Soon, his nurse Julia Adelaide (played by Bronwen Masters) becomes infatuated with him. This romance is foreshadowed by a short scene from A Thoroughly Polite Dustup, a fictional 1941 British war film. Masters and Tony Hale, who sports a hilarious fake chin, mustache, and bandaged left hand (the one Buster lost), play the nurse and soldier in A Thoroughly Polite Dustup.

Eight episodes later, Buster and Nurse Adelaide reenact a portion of the scene (almost word-for-word) just after Buster drops his coma charade.

7. ANNYONG'S REVENGE

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Season 3, Episode 13: Lucille and George’s adopted Korean son, Annyong, starts off as what appears to be a pretty one-dimensional and purposefully annoying (get it?) character, but expands greatly during the final episode of season three when his revenge plot is finally revealed. This moment was foreshadowed way back in season two when his real name “Hello” is spray-painted on the side of the Bluth's destroyed frozen banana stand during episode six.

His plot is also briefly noted in the fifth episode of season three, when he is shown hiding inside Lucille's home in order to steal Bluth family secrets. The narrator describes him as a “mole,” a fact that is also foreshadowed by the mole on his shirt two episodes earlier.

8. MICHAEL'S "FLIGHT OF THE PHOENIX"

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When Arrested Development returned via Netflix in 2013, its knack for nuanced storytelling became all the more complicated with the new season's unorthodox time frame. Pretty much every major plot point is foreshadowed in some small way—but one event pays off on a joke that’s been running since the very first episode.

Season 4, Episode 1: Season four starts off with Michael finally, albeit briefly, moving to Phoenix, a town that the narrator describes as a place “he'd always imagined would be his destiny.” We should have seen this coming, as Michael threatens to leave the family to live in Phoenix during the first episode of both seasons one and two. Another allusion to Michael’s love for Phoenix is the fact that he attends The University of Phoenix online throughout season four.

9. EVERYONE'S "A HOT MESS"

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Season 4, Episode 10: During this episode, Lucille and Buster discover a phrase that both find very useful in their arguments, and it becomes a running joke between the two: "A hot mess." They’re a little behind the times, though. Michael uses the phrase to describe Lucille 2 in the first episode of the season and Oscar yells it to Dr. Norman in the second.

10. GEORGE MICHAEL'S FAKEBLOCK

Season 4, Episode 1: The computer program that George Michael develops throughout season four isn’t what it appears to be. Scenes falsely hinting that it is privacy software are spread in the first episode. But when George Michael is introduced earlier in the episode, the sound of a woodblock, foreshadowing what he’s really working on, underscores his name.

11. ENDING UP ON THE "WRONG SIDE" OF A NOODLE

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Season 4, Episode 10: An incarcerated Lucille gets attacked by her Asian gang mate, armed with a sharpened noodle. But this wasn’t the first time that the Bluth matriarch had ended up on the “wrong side of a noodle.” George Sr. apologized for a much different kind of noodle stabbing in episode two, foreshadowing both Lucille’s run-in with the Jade Dragon Triad and George Sr.’s evaporating masculinity with a single line of dialogue.

With another season of Arrested Development to binge-watch, there's sure to be more wild foreshadowing to come. (Thanks to Recurring Developments and The Arrested Development Wiki for assistance with episode numbers.)

An earlier version of this post originally appeared in 2014.

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